{"id":3656,"date":"2025-03-04T17:19:44","date_gmt":"2025-03-04T16:19:44","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hubdespossibles.org\/changing-the-narrative-to-change-the-world-interview-with-cyril-dion\/"},"modified":"2025-09-18T15:31:31","modified_gmt":"2025-09-18T13:31:31","slug":"changing-the-narrative-to-change-the-world-interview-with-cyril-dion","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hubdespossibles.org\/en\/changing-the-narrative-to-change-the-world-interview-with-cyril-dion\/","title":{"rendered":"Podcast &#8220;2040 j&#8217;y vais!&#8221;#15 &#8211; Special program: interview with Cyril Dion"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-ausha wp-block-embed-ausha\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" title=\"Emission sp\u00e9ciale - Changer de r\u00e9cit pour changer le monde: entretien avec Cyril Dion\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"220px\" width=\"500px\" src=\"https:\/\/player.ausha.co\/?showId=J2Z1EI8Rn0zP&#038;color=%231d7f8f&#038;podcastId=mXJkNi6VRD15&#038;v=3&#038;playerId=ausha-2McB#?secret=cP67hQHm5s\" data-secret=\"cP67hQHm5s\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n<div style=\"height:44px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n<p>\ud83d\udc49 Subscribe or listen on <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/2h6BPLUuFeUSYTRfRpfjCA\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/2040-jy-vais\/id1733103614\">applepodcast<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deezer.com\/show\/1000713022\">deezer<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/podcastaddict.com\/podcast\/2040-j-y-vais\/4982407\">podcast addict<\/a> or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@Hubdespossibles\">Youtube<\/a><\/p>\n\n<div style=\"height:28px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n<p>&#8220;The secret of change is to focus your energy on building the new, not fighting the old. Spend less time harping on disasters and more time describing desirable futures&#8221;, Cyril Dion.<\/p>\n\n<p>Faced with the questioning of the climate commitments of major corporations, the rise of hatred of others and the undermining of democracy and the rule of law in the United States, we can feel a kind of stupefaction.<\/p>\n\n<p>So&#8230;. What if, in order to regain our power to act, we started by telling other stories? What if we started telling viral stories about how the ecological and social transition can be innovative, joyful and stimulating? <\/p>\n\n<p>To talk about it, I met Cyril Dion for a special program of the podcast &#8220;2040 j&#8217;y vais!&#8221;. 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