{"id":5687,"date":"2026-09-08T17:25:01","date_gmt":"2026-09-08T15:25:01","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/hubdespossibles.org\/2040-im-going-there-podcast-26-the-plastic-challenge-negotiating-for-a-world-free-of-plastic-pollutants\/"},"modified":"2026-09-08T17:57:21","modified_gmt":"2026-09-08T15:57:21","slug":"2040-im-going-there-podcast-26-the-plastic-challenge-negotiating-for-a-world-free-of-plastic-pollutants","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/hubdespossibles.org\/en\/2040-im-going-there-podcast-26-the-plastic-challenge-negotiating-for-a-world-free-of-plastic-pollutants\/","title":{"rendered":"&#8220;2040: I&#8217;m Going There!&#8221; Podcast &#8211; #26 The Plastic Challenge: Negotiating for a World Free of Plastic Pollutants"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-wp-embed is-provider-ausha wp-block-embed-ausha\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\n<iframe class=\"wp-embedded-content\" sandbox=\"allow-scripts\" security=\"restricted\" title=\"Episode 26: L&apos;enjeu du plastique: n\u00e9gocier pour un monde sans polluants plastiques\" frameborder=\"0\" height=\"220px\" width=\"500px\" src=\"https:\/\/player.ausha.co\/?color=%231d7f8f&amp;dark=false&amp;multishow=false&amp;playerId=ausha-yaS7&amp;playlist=false&amp;podcastId=BGANPwTxgxEP&amp;showId=J2Z1EI8Rn0zP&amp;t=0&amp;v=3#?secret=ZJWj0s7Cyv\" data-secret=\"ZJWj0s7Cyv\"><\/iframe>\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><br\/>\ud83d\udc49Subscribe or listen on <a href=\"https:\/\/open.spotify.com\/show\/2h6BPLUuFeUSYTRfRpfjCA\">Spotify<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/podcasts.apple.com\/us\/podcast\/2040-jy-vais\/id1733103614\">Apple Podcasts<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.deezer.com\/show\/1000713022\">Deezer<\/a>, <a href=\"https:\/\/podcastaddict.com\/podcast\/2040-j-y-vais\/4982407\">Podcast Addict<\/a>, or <a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/@Hubdespossibles\">YouTube<\/a>.<\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Plastic is an extraordinary material that can be used to create an extremely wide variety of shapes and products. And it is very inexpensive. That is why it is used so widely.  <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">But today, its use has become a problem. Every minute, 20 metric tons of plastic waste are dumped into the oceans. And each of us has seen the heartbreaking images of plastic islands in the middle of the ocean. As for plastic microplastics, they\u2019re found in our lakes, on our plates, and in our bodies, posing risks to our health.   <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">So how can we reduce plastic use and improve plastic waste management? Not just through individual recycling efforts, but at the systemic level? <\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">That\u2019s the question Chantal Peyer explores in this episode of the podcast \u201c2040: I\u2019m Going!\u201d with:<\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li>Pascal Hagmann, director of the OceanEye project, which conducts citizen science research on plastic pollution<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li>David Azoukay, who advocates for an international treaty on plastic at the International Association for Environmental Law<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And to inspire you to move toward a more sustainable future, we\u2019ll wrap up with a journey to the year 2040.<\/p>\n\n<div style=\"height:30px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Images from the Oceaneye project. 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class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>References<\/strong><\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.oceaneye.ch\/cartographie\/\">Mapping Plastic Pollution<\/a> by Oceaneye<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=NA1GovlKBKo&amp;list=PL7r3KvJsE84Y7CgM8QOcDNAd9ohRn-aw1\">Mapping Plastic Pollution to Develop Legislation<\/a>, Oc\u00e9aneye, 2026<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.youtube.com\/watch?v=Esx4tA9PJG0&amp;list=PL7r3KvJsE84Y7CgM8QOcDNAd9ohRn-aw1&amp;index=5\">Mapping Plastic Pollution, Together<\/a>, OceanEye<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.ciel.org\/\">Center for International Environmental Law<\/a><br\/><br\/><\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<div style=\"height:45px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Further information<\/strong><\/p>\n\n<ul class=\"wp-block-list\">\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/swissplastic.earth\/\">Swiss Plastic Action<\/a><\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.thelancet.com\/journals\/lanplh\/article\/PIIS2542-5196%2825%2900268-2\/fulltext\">Microplastic and Nanoplastic Pollution and Associated Potential Health Risks<\/a>, The Lancet, December 2025<\/li>\n\n\n\n<li><a href=\"https:\/\/www.oceaneye.ch\/wp-content\/uploads\/rapport_OE_lacs_suisses.pdf\">Assessment of Microplastic Pollution on the Surface of Eight Lakes in Switzerland<\/a>, 2025<\/li>\n<\/ul>\n\n<div style=\"height:45px\" aria-hidden=\"true\" class=\"wp-block-spacer\"><\/div>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Support<\/strong><\/p>\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">The podcast \u201c2040, I\u2019m Going!\u201d is made possible thanks to the support of the Giovannini Foundation, the Canton of Valais, the Canton of Vaud, the Canton of Geneva, and Services Industriels de Gen\u00e8ve. 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